RandomExile's Forum Posts

  • Hah! And, searching the Rep list for accounts to audit, I found one user with 162 Devotee Badges, who crammed 1,620 days into a 202-day-old account which was last active 120 days ago. So, if the user was active for 82 days, that's a max of 7 legit badges (since I believe you have to lose a day to reset the clock), but instead racked up 20/day. Maybe they just got 20 times more use out of the site than typical. =P

  • I've now vetted all of the original suggestions from the Scirra forums, and added a number of my own. Thanks to everyone for your input (and debugdesign, you'll see I added the store to the list -- nice work!), and please continue to add to the list! I'll keep updating as I run into promising leads.

    Cheers,

    RE

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  • Ahhh, you're right! So, he gets three more points for comments, giving him 175. Assuming he has no upvotes, and since I couldn't find a tutorial for him, that means the C2 license is 180.

    Applying that to me, then ...

    050 Manual Grad

    025 Authentic

    001 Blog+1

    025 Commentator

    050 Devotee 25x2

    025 Evaluator

    025 Eye2Eye

    001 Forum+1

    025 Forum User

    025 Hello World

    025 Manual Student

    001 +1

    025 RTFM

    025 Updater

    060 Forum posts 30x2

    004 Site Comments 4

    180 Theoretical C2 License Rep

    -------------------

    572 Rep

    (810) Actual Rep

    -------------------

    (238) Unexplained Rep

    I find it more likely that the License Rep would be 150, rather than 180, which might mean MelVin has 30 Unexplained points of his own (although they may be comment upvotes which haven't reached the threshold for a badge).

    I don't believe I have upvotes, so I may have 268 Unexplained Rep. I'd try to calculate yours, Kyatric, but ... =)

  • I love the simple but engaging gameplay of AirScape. I agree it would be cool if the graphics were spiffed up, but they didn't turn me off as they are, and I like the smooth transitions between landing screen to control screen, etc.

  • Thanks, Karzay. I've used something similar for home maintenance, called ServiceMagic. As someone who's looking for a pro, I appreciate the site's rating system, the ability to compare prices, and the site's pre-vetting of contractors. As a random homeowner, I'm not really competent to comb through thousands of contractors to determine who does the best work for the best price. Since I'm paying them for a service the technical aspects of which I may not be familiar with, I need to be able to trust that I'm not being cheated, and the rating and review system allows me to do that.

    I've paid for a contractor who wasn't the low bidder on several occasions, because I wanted one with a higher rating I could trust. Cheap people will tend to get more poorly skilled contractors, but ones with outstanding ratings can often afford to charge more because people like me need to know that I'm going to pay once for a job done right.

    When it comes time for me to hire an artist (I'm a writer/designer), it's going to work the same way. I hope I can pay an artist a wage I can afford and they're satisfied with. I've been going through dozens of sites on my Site List: Graphic Artist thread here, and without some sort of rating/review system and pre-vetting by the administrators, I feel like finding the right artist would be a Sisyphean task.

    I get what you're saying about the contrast with Ebay, where the "clients" bid up a starting quote, as opposed to Guru or ServiceMagic where contractors submit quotes for comparison and the client can negotiate. On the other hand, I'm an Ebay sniper, and I'll bid a low price I think is fair on hundreds of auctions for a month to snag that one fluke low score.

    In your or other artists' opinions, what would you consider a fair price for each of the following, in a style similar to Braid:

    o 1280x600 detailed junglescape background for a side-scroller

    o 120x60 static shrub

    o 60x60 5-frame walk animation for main character

    o 60x60 30 second, 25fps animation for cut scene for main character

    o 600x480 splash screen, 3 second, 25fps with simple company logo animated

    And on top of that, for purposes of this thread, what do you find that people actually pay on bidding versus freelance sites?

    -RE

  • If you count up almost anyone's theoretical point totals for badges and add forum post points, you'll see they don't align. The stated points for badges and behaviors doesn't actually match points awarded. You, for example, have:

    Authentic: 25

    Commentator: 25

    Forum User: 25

    Hello World!: 25

    RTFM: 25

    Updater: 25

    Forum Posts: 11x2=22

    I would expect, just based on public points values, for you to have 172 rep. Right now you show at 355. You can do the same with mine, and I've noticed that I often get more points for a badge than listed on the badge page.

  • Mods, given the overlapping subject matter, I wasn't sure whether to post this here or in Tools/Resources. Thoughts?

  • I made a thread several weeks ago, and I could be wrong about how it happened, but it seemed that I kept receiving Rep Points when people would post replies. On the other hand, I've since made another topic and haven't received reply-rep. Was I hallucinating?

    It would make sense for there to be some sort of rep bonus when people post on your topic, as it indicates you've stimulated community interaction, which seems to be one of the key behaviors the site creators have targeted through gamification. (The three biggies being Community Interaction, Game Creation, and Community Support.)

    -RE

  • I concur! I had the same thought, too, that it would be convenient to "favorite" topics, which would be accessible in a Favorite Topics section of one's profile.

  • Thanks! A lot of people posted some excellent leads.

    As I'm vetting the sites, I'm converting the bare addresses to embedded hyperlinks, which can be considered a progress monitor. =) After I get this initial list squared away, I'll start adding a few paid asset sites, too, like iStockPhoto and others. iStockphoto isn't ideally suited for traditional game development (they only rarely allow contract work), but the art can nonetheless be purchases and adapted, particularly for backgrounds.

  • Glad it's helpful! If they don't check in on this thread, I'll contact the original posters to see if they can clarify categories, and I'll start vetting each of the sites.

    [Edit: Thanks, @JACLEMGO for the input!]

  • Gentlepersons,

    I've collated the following list of sites from numerous forum threads as well as personal research, and have currently organized them into eight general categories: broker sites, fixed-price assets, free art assets, freelance forums, galleries, job bidding, job opening, and miscellaneous.

    Please correct the sites, suggest new ones, and tell me which are flat out wrong. Thanks for your help!!

    --RE

    P.S. I'm only interested in the mechanical labeling of said sites, not ethics and morality, which may be best discussed on the Scirra Forums here (Ethics of Job Bidding) and here (Find 2D Artists).

    <font size="6">Graphic Artist Site List</font>

    Key: <img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/2lsy5ux.png" border="0"> Scirra Site Member; <img src="http://i50.tinypic.com/2sabdrs.png" border="0"> Construct 2 Licensee

    <font size="5">Scirra Member Private Sites</font>

    <img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/2lsy5ux.png" border="0"> bladesquad Gallery, Contract

    <img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/2lsy5ux.png" border="0"> Debug Design Gallery, Contract

    <img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/2lsy5ux.png" border="0"> Indie Game Designer Fixed Price, Contract

    <img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/2lsy5ux.png" border="0"> Mateusz W?jcik Gallery, Contract

    <img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/2lsy5ux.png" border="0"> Quire Graphics Gallery, Contract

    <img src="http://i50.tinypic.com/2sabdrs.png" border="0"> RicoD Blog/Gallery, Contract, Royalty/Profit-Share, Elance, Freelancer

    <img src="http://i50.tinypic.com/2sabdrs.png" border="0"> Shadow-Embryo Gallery, Contract

    <font size="5">Broker Sites</font> Client submits a project, site administrators match with artists.

    DesignCrowd

    Freelanced (contact broker only: payment via private arrangement)

    Hire an Illustrator

    <font size="5">Fixed-Price Assets</font>

    <img src="http://i50.tinypic.com/2sabdrs.png" border="0"> DravenX Games

    <img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/2lsy5ux.png" border="0"> EatCreatures

    GameTextures.com

    <img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/2lsy5ux.png" border="0"> Graphic Buffet

    <img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/2lsy5ux.png" border="0"> Graphics 4 Games

    iStockphoto

    <font size="5">Free Art Assets</font> Free-for-Use Art, subject to variable licenses.

    letsmakegames Asset List (link list to free art, textures, sound, music, 2D graphics, animation, icons, fonts, text, and commercial resources)

    Lost Garden Free Art Posts/Assets/Links

    Open Clip Art Library (public domain clip art)

    Open Game Art

    Texture Freaks

    <font size="5">Freelance Forums</font>

    <font color="white">oo</font><img src="http://static2.scirra.net/forum_images/bullet.png" border="0"> Method 1: Artists post availability and art samples, and consider offers from clients.

    <font color="white">ooooo</font>indiegamer Forum: Art Portfolios

    <font color="white">oo</font><img src="http://static2.scirra.net/forum_images/bullet.png" border="0"> Method 2: Clients post jobs, and consider offers from artists.

    <font color="white">ooooo</font>deviantART Job Offers Forum

    <font color="white">ooooo</font>GameArtisans

    <font color="white">ooooo</font>GameDev

    <font color="white">ooooo</font>indiegamer Forum: Help Wanted

    <font color="white">ooooo</font>Pixel Joint Job Offerings Forum

    <font color="white">ooooo</font>Scirra Help Wanted Forum

    <font color="white">ooooo</font>TIGForums Paid Work Forum

    <font color="white">ooooo</font>Way of the Pixel Job Offers Forum

    <font color="white">oo</font><img src="http://static2.scirra.net/forum_images/bullet.png" border="0"> Method 3: Both 1&2

    <font color="white">ooooo</font>GameArtist Employment Forum

    <font color="white">ooooo</font>indieDB Job Board

    <font color="white">ooooo</font>Kongregate Collaborations Forumm

    <font color="white">ooooo</font>Open Game Art Open Commissions Forum

    <font color="white">ooooo</font>Programmer Meet Designer

    <font size="5">Gallery Site</font>

    Directory of Illustration

    Hire an Illustrator

    Newgrounds

    zhibit

    <font size="5">Job Bidding</font> Clients post jobs, contractors submit proposals.

    Aniboom

    Elance

    Freelancer

    Guru

    oDesk

    vWorker (frmr. Rent a Coder)

    <font size="5">Job Openings</font>

    CreativeHeads

    indeed

    Krop

    Simple Hired

    <font size="5">Miscellaneous</font>

    Freelance Switch: The Monster List of Freelancing Job Sites

    Lost Garden List of Game Artists

    Slated for Deletion

    Imagine Animation

    Animation Village Animator Directory

    Yahoo Design Arts>Graphic Design

    Illustration Mundo

    World Artist Directory

    Sources:

    JACLEMGO

    jogosgratispro

    brunogruber

    Knudsen

    jchamplain

    —

    DravenX

  • Karzay being interested in economics, and sorry if I derail the thread, could you explain how you believe bidding sites/ebay drive prices higher or lower? (I swear I'm not baiting you! I'm actually interested in your opinion of how the respective markets and mechanics play out.)

  • Back up to 16 days again! Onward and upward. =)

  • I found it more legible,and didn't have any problems with left-hand spawning. Great job!