And therein lies the issue as to why devs and businesses cannot rely on C3 as a serious tool.

I'm a dev and it works totally fine for me. Again, it all comes down to where your priorities and personal experiences or wishes for improvements etc. lie.

Which goes back to the obvious answer to the question whether a subscription is worth it to you or not: only you can decide that for yourself and if you feel like it is not, then by all means, look for a tool that better suits your need or where you feel you'll have a happier experience.

Also: when you're a business that has the financial turnover to rent offices and employ people, you're probably in a position where you'd want to move on from C3 anyway, since you're going to hire programmers and will use the tools that they're most familiar with. That's why i think it's so hard comparing one to the other because they all serve different purposes and different demographics.

But yea, i'll leave it at that now ;)

Also, Scirra supporters keep harping back to the subscription model allowing for faster updates and implementation of new features. If so, could you please explain why we have been waiting MONTHS for implementation of the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) functionality so that we can list our apps on the Apple market?

Can't tell you about the inner workings of the company as i not partake in it. Maybe because there are like 30 different threads on this forum about 30 different things to implement all with the same urgency?

And i just wanted to add, i find it quite counterproductive to split up a community in apologists and more critical consumer-freedom movements. As if i never had any concerns to voice, which i do. This paints like the light as if users who are positive about the software somehow are conspiring of keeping others from their well-deserved features.

Really sorry about your subscription ticking away.

Bye.

Well if you want to hear people's opinions, then let me say, i absolutely support the subscription and can understand why it was installed in the first place.

People really do need to start kinda understanding how businesses operate and that you basically can't run a business with products where you pay once for years of support and free updates anymore especially since software nowadays isn't just the program itself anymore but, especially in case of web based applications, has ongoing costs like server fees etc.

So on the one hand there's a high demand in the community for frequent updates, new features, better support etc. on the other hand people really don't want to pay much for it. This is by the way the EXACT same problem the game industry faces right now. People don't value digital products very much even though just as many man hours went into the creation often times as with any consumer good.

So back when C2 was made it was basically Ashley and his brother doing all the work and the one-off fee was enough to sustain them. Now with C3 they seek to expand plus it has advanced to a web app so there are more cost evolved PLUS the company has grown and it's not just two people anymore. Last time i checked, talented programmers in this world wouldn't work for free.

As of the question of hobbyists etc.: well i see it like this: if you're part of a soccer club, you can expect to probably pay more than 90 bucks of member fees to the club each year. Or have you ever subscribed to a gym? That's Construct 3 ten times over for a year. Wanna play online games on the Playstation? There you go, PS+ account. Going to Design school like myself and need Adobe's software packages? Subscription. And so on and so on...

Not every hobby is for free either and i really think that it's not like people get their dreams crushed because of C3 going subscription based, it is as Tom said, all a matter of you own personal view. IF you really just want to tinker around with game making from time to time well, gee, luckily there are TONS of choices out there and even a lot of free ones. From GDevelop to Godot, it all has you covered.

So sorry if this might come off as being harsh, but i feel like if people would spend the time they took to complain about pricing of a product to just use something different and actually MAKE games, they would probably get much closer to where they want to be.

So C3 is what it is. With all its benefits and all its shortcomings. And the price is 90 dollars a year. For me personally, that's totally worth it. I have a fulltime job next to part time school, so i can afford it but i want to make game making my career and it's only natural that with any "business venture" you start, you better plan for some investments.

But ask 100 different people and you'll probably get 100 different opinions, i just find it pretty amazing that this topic still shows up after having been discussed in several threads already and the reasons why Scirra went that route are pretty clear. I also find it kind of interesting, that many assume that this is like a bad business decision on their part when in reality they were able to hire more people because of it and we get faster development cycles on the App, the web services and the website now. There are enough users who think it's worth it to them and for anyone else the only other option is another service that seems fairer to them. It's kinda that simple.

Peace and love!

If it happens with the C3 runtime, that's hardly beta yet so i wouldn't be surprised if there are still a few kinks to iron out ;) For anything else, i'm sure there will be a fix for it soon.

Is this for mobile browsers only? We have the limitation in nw.js as well but you only have to touch once for the whole game. Is this still the case? Or do you have to touch for each new layout?

Very cool, thanks for posting! I think Scirra/ Ashley should definitely state their case as a technology company, when the pitching sessions start. We're at almost 500 signatures on the petition ^^

Nice idea! Here's mine: http://www.twitter.com/JoelMayerProds

Wow i didn't check it for a few days but we're at 296 now :O Almost 300

Haha no problem i just thought i'd put it in here in case you're planning on scaling

Unfortunately, i don't have much experience with the pathfinding behaviour myself. My Adventure Game is a sidescroller so i guess i can't be of much help :S My guess would be that there is probably a way to precalculate certain paths on layout loading so when the layout is ready, the character will move immediately since the paths have already been calculated but this is just an uneducated guess

Alex Francois who made "The Slaughter" which is a traditional PnC Adventure Game in Construct 2 has a great article on his blog about character scaling and such.

You can find it here: http://brainchildstudios.tumblr.com/

Quote from the blog:

[quote:3ifvlaw2]After a lot of guess work and trial and error when trying to make a character scale realistically, I decided it was time to make a simple linear scaling algorithm that can be easily tweaked to the perspective of every scene. I’m pretty terrible at explaining, the image probably gives the clearer explanation but here’s my attempt anyway:

Linear Scaling Algorithm:

InitialScale+((Player.Y-a)*e)

Find the point in the layout’s Y axis at which you want your character to be at their normal scale, let’s call this (a).

Find the point in the layout’s Y axis which the player’s scale is at twice their normal scale, call this (b).

Find the difference from (a) to (b) on the Y axis which we call ©, and the difference from (a) to (b) in terms of scale, which we call (d).

Divide (d) by © which gives us (e)

Player.Y is the constantly tracked Y position of the player in the layout.

This works a treat and is very easy to tweak, especially if you set (a) to a variable which is changed with each scene. I hope this had made some tiny bit of sense, but if it hasn’t let me know!

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