Why not just steal the ideas off firefly: http://store.steampowered.com/app/267655/

If there's desktop, I'm in favour, as I've said.

Ashley and Tom, everyone .. I do love C1 and really love C2, I couldn't thank you more and will definitely support C3. Report issues and promote the product. Personally $99 annual is fine on my end, obviously not for everyone. Saying the price up front is definitely bold and honest way of dealing things early on. I see alot of people here are willing to pay a certain recurring payment amount, if you can somehow device a way to make a price tier that will cater to everyone's needs. It will also increase your paying audience. BTW great screenshots for C3 running in chrome. Thanks.

Imagine ( $99*10,000(paying users) ) / 12 months = $82,500 only for monthly gross. Everyone should know that this amount is very small if you are maintain quality staffs, employees, servers, paying tax and rentals. For all other people complaining give these guys some credits! They will provide a free version of C3 and C2 is still supported so lets provide a decent support for scirra.

No corporate pitty train, save it for a charity fundraiser.

they don't have to worry about the users who wouldn't have paid for the new scheme anyways.

So far that's coming up on about 75-80% of them, I know I'd be worried.

How about 250 easy payments of only $2? Buy now, before supplies run out!

If this is a full ownership at the end of 5 years, I think you might just have come up with the truly best business model, mate.

So we all in agreement here?

> we felt we needed to increase communication with the user base

>

The last 24-hours would have been a good time.

I think we're all just tired of being made to feel old fashioned if there's quite clearly a better and reliable solution that's available, but because it isn't bleeding edge tech or easy, they shove the blame back on us. We can say "native" all we want but they say "no no, the future is html5" well I'm sorry, it wasn't 5 years ago and it still isn't. We shouldn't even care what native is, it's just become a trite word to use in place of "can you actually write an exporter after 5 years, please?".

I mean, I want the platform movement to have solids disabled/enables per character, not globally for every object. Someone hacked the platform object to add a workout. Ashley claims we shouldn't be hacking stock behaviours and couldn't understand what I wanted that functionality for. I gave endless examples. Others did too. Absolutely no reply from that point on.

He still blames gpus for performance. He still claims html5 will be as good as native, but if anything it seems to be getting worse. There's no hit games using c2, the closest is rewriting it for performance improvement and because he can't port to console with c2.

And I quoted the bitwig thread that followed this exact same chain of events for hem to read. Where are the actual replies from scirra regarding this pr catastrophe?

Zebbi, haha nice.

Seriously though, it's not at all true to say that the consumer shouldn't be a factor in deciding the price.

'In 1st century BC, Publilius Syrus wrote: "Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it".' - https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Introduction_to_Economics

This isn't businessman logic, this is idiot logic.

If people don't pay for Construct 3 when it's released with this subscription based model, Scirra won't make money at all. I realize Republicans can be ignorant, but if there is anything they understand, it's how to get what they want.

Yes, the post I quoted reminded me of these Christian conservatives that dislike open-source because it's taking food of the mouths of hard working Microsoft family men (not joking this was an actual blog I saw years ago).

People should be complaining about business decisions that are better for business and worse for the customer. As many have asked: what about this announcement was benefitting me and not the company?

I think it's ridiculous to be asking this question to the members, when it's not the community's decision. It's the business owners who make the business plans.

It's like me making a poll about "should C3 be $99 a month or a $1 one time payment". Obviously what most people would want is the one that benefits themselves and not the business more.

This rings like a business republican's answer.