Solomon

Sorry to say it but you are beating a dead horse. More or less this is marketing. It doesn't say that it will add +90MB to your game, but it also doesn't say that it will not add +90MB to your game. For what is worth, wrappers are mentioned.

If you missed my previous reply, please read it:

Is not an excuse, but other software does it too. For example engines that export to PS4 doesn't say that the PS4 kit is expensive, or Clickteam Fusion 2.5 that does not include ads, in-app purchases and a lot of functions in the standard version (80 Euro), you need the developer version (300 Euro), or RPG Maker MV that export only HTML5/NWjs doesn't even specify that uses wrappers... etc.

From what I see, you already purchased a license and I don't know if Scirra refunds... And to add salt of wounds, not long ago GM:S and Fusion 2.5 had some limited time discounts (I've got GM:S Pro + Android Exporter + some Indie games + source codes of some games for 12 Euro).

I can't say I'm 100% satisfied with Construct 2, but at the moment it does it's job and I've got the money I've paid and more.

I'm with Solomon on this one. While for bigger games +60MB or +90MB is not such of bid deal, for simple Mario, Flappy Bird and other under 10MB games this is definitely a big downside. Let not even talk about +30MB for a Flappy Bird clone on Android <5.0 . And what is with the comparison with GTA V or Skyrim, are we comparing apples with potatoes ?

Solomon

Sorry to say it but as a customer is your duty to inform yourself about a product before buying (search, ask on forums, see some finished games ... etc).

Another example is: http://www.rpgmakerweb.com/products/pro ... g-maker-mv Long story -> short: It exports only HTML5 and/or NWjs but isn't specified, you have to dig a little to find about it.

The other way to get smaller games is to go native: Unity is arguably the best tool for indie developers, but you will need to learn coding, even if you use visual scripting like Playmaker. The same goes with Game Maker: Studio. The closest alternative to Construct 2 is Clickteam Fusion 2.5, but is more expensive and it also has it's fair amount of downsides like any other game engine.

No matter what you write here will change the fact that Construct 2 is HTML5 engine and Ashley made it clear that he will not go native like Construct Classic. So is like "Take it or leave it" or "Take what you can get".

On the bright side:

C2 is focusing only on HTML5 so you get the best performance compared to other games engines that have a HTML5 exporter. Is fast. you can develop games really fast in C2. You develop once and runs on anything that supports HTML5. While HTML5 is slower than native, is supported by big corporations. It works great on mobile browsers (iOS 8, WP8, WP10, Android 5.0) without wrapper. There is a market for HTML5 games.

You should ask yourself:

Do I need the extra 60MB and the extra performance the native offers at the cost of more time to develop a game, or I can go with it and develop the game faster ?

Even if you decide to go with another engine, you can continue using Construct 2 for smaller projects, or for quick sketching game concepts.

Ashley

Size definitely matters, especially on mobiles or in countries where the internet infrastructure is poor. And 245kb is definitely waaaay smaller than 60~90MB.

Also, since the nw.dll is the same in all projects, can't be installed once and used by all games that uses NWjs ? To me this looks like a much better approach than integrating it in every small game.

From what I remember Cocoon's Canvas+ added around 10MB to your projects.

I get 1% CPU Load, 60fps in Chrome/Edge (i5-3330S) and 52~60fps in Chrome/Galaxy S4.

The closest thing I can think about is Spriter.

Thank you

Yes, while the player is not overlapping ground that is on layer 3, do stuff.

I other words I want the action to be made if any of the following conditions is met:

• the player is not overlapping ground
• the player is overlapping ground that is on another layer than layer 3

The action is not made if:

• the player is overlapping ground that is on layer 3

When trying to work around the lack of custom solid selection, I've hit another dead end. I can't get the "Is overlapping" and "Is overlapping at offset" to accept another condition in the same event.

I am trying to check if the player is overlapping only with the ground that is on layer 3 or any other condition.

Am I doing anything wrong ?

Found the walkaround: Write my own platform behaviour using events

I've tried using only 1 object with platform behaviour and the other one moved by events and switch between them, but the behaviours are executed before events so it still not working as intended. So for a simple task that was requested dozens of times before and is still not implemented I have to try all sorts of walkarounds ...

Bumping this topic

So I understand that this basic feature is not implemented even now ... Can someone give me some pointers how to work around it ? I have 2 players in the same screen and I need each one to have collision with specific objects.

The easiest is Construct 2, but you will have some issues with the export.

You should try each a little and see how it goes. At the moment Fusion 2.5 has a nice sale on Steam, but watch out for hidden things as needing Developer Licence to include Ads or remove splash logo ... etc. Other than that is decent and has produced some good selling games.

Thank you all for your great help and comments, much appreciated.

I hope you won't be offended but I've now bought Fusion 2.5 (mainly due to the fact its currently 85% off on the steam sale) thanks anyway for all your help, perhaps one day I will buy Construct 2 <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile">

salute!

Just checked it. For the price of C2, you can get Fusion 2.5 and some native exporters <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy"> But note that if you want to put ads in your mobile game, you will need the developer licence: http://www.clickteam.com/android-export-module-details

On the bright side, somebody has made code optimizations and even native exporters for consoles/handhelds : http://mp2.dk/chowdren