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Hoh, by referring to the physics I meant just as an example of what I would like to have as a smooth collision using bullet, it can be basic too as long as it doesn't behave doing the teleporting and stuff but didn't mean to replicate the whole physics collisions.

you want collisions to have full physics simulated responses, in which case why wouldn't you just use the physics behavior?

Yeah that's the first thing I did I spend over a week now trying to balance the Physics settings so I can use just that which would have been perfect but it wasn't possible to make the balance I needed

Example:

The balance between (Collisions against objects and Speed To Move objects)

-Whenever I make the "Speed To Move objects" at the right speed that I need then it will break the "Collisions against objects"

-And whenever I make the "Collisions against objects" right then it brakes the "Speed To Move objects" so I couldn't have the right valance.

I could have had everything working on the same day if I could just have more control over the balance.

The problems you are describing with 'bounce out of solid' etc. happen in every engine I have used that provide similar functionality - most engines don't provide any automatic collision handling outside their physics engine.

I see, good to know as I haven't used any other engine yet, is there anything that they do other engines to make it better that we could do here?

It's been many years that we have the same basic collision system and I think with the new C3 RunTime it could have an Upgrade, as its one of the core behaviours that we use in almost all the Games.

The issues:

All these years every time that I try to use the collision for specific cases I never succeed and you ended up spending a lot of time of the development looking for ideas and alternatives for no reason where it could be simply integrated into Construct.

Example:

A lot of times I tried to use the bullet behaviour because that was perfect for my needs and simple, but the collisions "bounce out of solid" it never worked properly causing the objects behave abnormally sliding between each other and teleporting instead of bouncing naturally as it would happen if you will use the Physics behaviour which it works smoothly.

Here is an example:

Capx: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6cpi1lr61i4rfy2/Collisions%20Problems.capx?dl=0

Another case is maybe you just need to use the "Move At Angle" Expression but you have no way to do the collisions swell

I mostly never succeed with the collision when I do a game that is not a platform.

I propose:

To have a separate "Collision Behaviour" that works as smooth as the physics and that you could change settings like (Mass, linear Damping, maybe Angular Dumping, etc....) so whenever you add this behaviour to an object then it will calculate the collisions and will adjust automatically the Behaviour that you currently use to move that object.

Example:

1-If you are using bullet behaviour, then when the object collides it will automatically change the object (Angle, speed, acceleration, etc....) for you as you have added the New "collision behaviour" to the object

2-Something similar to help the "Move At Angle"

3-Also alow to make a perfect round collision bounding box automatically or add a feature like the physics which let you choose a "Circle Collision Mask"

It's a very needed improvement I hope you take it into consideration as most of my projects weren't platformer and this has been a huge problem for me in almost every project.

If anyone has more ideas to improve the Collisions please share it here

And if anyone wants to vote for the Collision Upgrade please vote here:

https://construct3.ideas.aha.io/ideas/C3-I-1493

Thanks for reading

Mmm, Why they don't allow us anymore to replay or post if its two years old thread? that post was for some nice mechanics nothing old lol

I'm referring to this Post:

construct.net/en/forum/construct-2/how-do-i-18/release-ball-self-caused-138418

Anyway

Thanks R0J0hound for sharing, the third one works great!

I have been trying for a week to replicate the Physics (collisions and Movement) as I couldn't find the right balance for what I needed.

For the Movement I found one of your examples to use instead but I'm still looking for how to do the collisions using bullet without using the bullet bounce out of solids because it behaves strangely.

So I tried to integrate it with your example number three using bullet and it's nearly there but it fail many times if I add the extra object Balls

Capx: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwdachxzbncq30f/collisions%20test.capx?dl=0

Do you know if it's possible to make a good solid collision without the physics?

Also will be great if it could count with the ( Linear Damping, Mas, Angular dump) exactly as the physics behaviour does.

Exactly like this:

here is an example that prepared and adjusted the settings.

As you can see when the ball collides with the other one, the impact stops the first one that collides and pushes the next ones as it takes into account ( Linear Damping & Mas) so it looks natural, and the same for all the balls that collide, plus also counting the Solid walls.

Needed: dropbox.com/s/u5wpudsv3xpt0o2/collisions%20needed.capx

I would love to assist you

You can contact me at gamedevolop(at)Gmail .com

Wow Thanks to Mikal yesterday we finally know the mystery of the iPhone6 why was super slow loading even when it was using Chrome 80.

An important note is that the iPhone 6 it never loaded anything ever quick and its been like this since c3 come out three years ago, so for the first time, it loaded fast even testing a project of 32mb which normally would take me 7 to 9 min. I can't believe that it was just one setting to turn it on all this time.

So it wasn't the iOS problem like I thought on this thread

https://www.construct.net/en/forum/construct-3/general-discussion-7/preview-wi-fi-super-slow-146770

And here is the prove:

By just activating one feature "webRTC mDNS ICE candidates" the drastic loading Time is huge.

I record both tests on the same video with the same C3 project 32mb.

"webRTC mDNS ICE candidates" = ON >>>>>> 17 seconds

"webRTC mDNS ICE candidates" = OFF >>>>>> 6 minutes

C3 Project that I tested: is the same that I been posting

dropbox.com/s/px780oole0wwdj2/c3_local_preview_test.c3p

Here is the video:

dropbox.com/s/us3py0s9nneejgp/c3%20slow%20preview%20%28canditate%20off-on%29-1.m4v

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Now the question is why it keeps happening some times on Phones that already have that "webRTC mDNS ICE candidates" = ON like my iPhone 7, 8, Xs Max etc...

We have been looking yesterday Mikal and I at safari debug iPhone 6 and it looks like the similar thing happen as when you have "webRTC mDNS ICE candidates" = OFF

Which it Picks the Wrong Candidate that's why it ends on slow loadings as you see on the video when the "webRTC mDNS ICE candidates" = its OFF

Solid obstacles are there to block the line of sight to another object not itself.

On Construct 2 it never worked like this, it blocks the objects that are solids swell which makes sense as they are solid anyway

You can test it here:

Capx:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0tww6s0yal38pco/line%20of%20sight%20bug.capx?dl=0