From the Scirra blog:

[quote:2dk157hg]We'll also provide brand-new IAP and ad plugins for iOS and Android, as well as building and maintaining the underlying Cordova plugins ourselves. This should minimise any difficulties with configuration or third-party libraries.

Hi Ashley , Tom is it possible to get some more information about these plugins please?:

Will the iAP plugin support both consumable and non-consumable iAPs?

With the Ad plugin, which ad networks would be supported? Will you provide some alternative ad networks or will it only be AdMob as is the case with C2? It would be great to have official plugins for other networks like Chartboost or Applovin for example? Is this a possibility?

I think no need to focus on ios any more in the future , it's a dying product if they do not change their politic.

Sorry but this comment is completely uninformed.. and just.. idiotic.

iDouches are considered to be the upper end of the market when it comes to game / app development. iDevice owners are generally more cashed up (they need to be to afford Apple products) and are more prepared to pay for games and iAPs. There may be many more Android devices but generally speaking their users are less willing to pay.

In addition the higher bar required to get games / apps onto the Apple AppStore means that there are (relatively) less garbage games / clones etc to compete with. Meaning its easier to get you games discovered on Apple devices compared to Android, where the GooglePlay store is just awash with tsunamis of trash clones.

The fact that it's possible to make better revenue on iOS is reflected by the fact some devs target Apple devices exclusively, or consider Android to be firmly a secondary priority. My own short experience as a game dev focused on mobile shows how critical it is to target iOS. So far 95% + of my income has come from my game on the Apple AppStore.

Apple users represent the premium end of the market and game devs aiming for mobile wanting to make an income should absolutely 100% target them.

But you go ahead and ignore iOS — if you think its a waste of time

A while ago we asked Kyatric to thoroughly document the process of setting up IAP on Android and iOS. His tutorials are up.

From what I can tell the main problems are:

1) it's difficult to configure the IAP stuff on the dashboards - on both Apple's developer site and Google Play. These usually are set up for technical developers, and most C2 users are non-technical. On top of that it's difficult to keep documentation up-to-date because these services keep changing their web interfaces.

2) the build systems we recommend sometimes make it difficult to use the underlying Cordova plugins.

If you work around the issues, AFAIK everything works. I do agree though that it is too difficult. This is why we're rebuilding the feature and integrating it with our own build system for C3.

We already have a Google Play plugin, but I think it also runs in to issue #1. We aren't currently working on anything new for GameCenter, but we could look in to it later down the line.

Hi ASHLEY.

It would be a huge relief to me, and many others Im sure, if Scirra could maintain plugins for GoogePlay and GameCenter achievements / leaderboards, to bring those plugins under the umbrella of 'officially maintained Scirra plugins' alongside the updated iAP and Ads plugins for C3.

You mention you could consider updating the GameCenter plugin in the future. I would ask you to please follow through on that and to also update the GooglePlay plugin as well. Id be prepared to pay for additional GameCenter / GooglePlay plugins if you sold them separately in the Store or something. To me it would be worth the extra cost if they were going to be reliably maintained. I feel like im in a precarious position using Cranberrygame's plugins for iAP, GooglePlay / GameCenter connectivity and Ads... because they may not work in future.

For the record, while I agree it's a pain setting up the iAP and Achievements / Leaderboards stuff on the GooglePlay / GameCenter Dashboards, in my case that's not what stopped me from using the official C2 plugins. It was that they don't work as the documentation says they are supposed to. In my recent experience, this was true for both the official iAP and GameCenter plugins. I tested the official C2 iAP plugin extensively. I followed — tutorial to the tee with no success. It seemed the 'has product' condition failed. So I was forced into relying on third party plugins for these core functionalities.

What about the question of connecting to GameCenter and GooglePlay for achievements / leaderboards Ashley Will there be updated plugins to support that functionality in C3?

Currently it is very difficult to monetize games with Construct 2. In fact it is sometimes impossible because every official monetization plugin have been broken for several years. And every bug report has been completely ignored. People are forced to use cranberry plugins which may or may not work.

Game Center, Google Play, IAP, Ads etc… It is all still broken. If this has not been fixed in years in Construct 2. How can we be sure that it all will work in Construct 3? Especially when the price is fairly steep.

Tom, Ashley

This is something I'm thinking about too. Ive tried to engage Ashley and Tom (see post here), but they are yet to reply.

I recently published a game on iOS and Android. For features like iAP and Achievements/Leaderboards I tried to use the official plugins first and I found it impossible to get them working. In my experience your statement is true at09, the official plugins are broken and don't work for these features. I was forced to use the third party plugins by Cranberrygame for iAP and Achievements and I also used a Cranberrygame ads plugin too, because I didn't want to use the AdMob network (I didn't try the official ad plugin so I cant comment if that works or not).

So I feel like I'm in a precarious situation. If these plugins stop working there's nothing I can do about it, and unfortunately Cranberrygame doesn't have a good reputation when it comes to maintaining his plugins. Ive messaged him via all his available contact channels on a few occasions asking for support for his plugins which I have paid for, and never received a single reply.

It would be different if these plugins were developed by devs like rexrainbow or MadSpy. You could have confidence they'd be maintained. But it would be infinitely better if they were maintained by Scirra.

In my opinion full iAP support, ability to connect to marketplace Achievements / Leaderboards (Android, iOS, WinPhone, Steam), a couple of major mobile ads networks... these features should be core to Construct2 / 3 and should be maintained by Scirra, not left to third party devs.

As newt said Scirra recently posted this:

[quote:3g4e8ibn]We'll also provide brand-new IAP and ad plugins for iOS and Android, as well as building and maintaining the underlying Cordova plugins ourselves. This should minimise any difficulties with configuration or third-party libraries.

This is great! Im super excited to hear that news. This along with news about the new build process for mobile which Scirra will host is the easily the highlight of the C3 features revealed so far for me!

But like I posted in my thread above, Id like to know about a plugin for Achievements / Leaderboards. Will that also be updated in C3? I can't imagine they would provide updated plugs for iAP and ads, but leave the core functionality of connecting to GameCenter and GooglePlay Services to a third party? Would they? I mean, the original intention was for C2 to provide a plugin for that it's just that Scirra stopped maintaining it and allowed Cranberrygame's CordovaGame plugin to fill the niche.

And how about Steam and WinPhone? Will there be any plugins for those platforms? And as for ads, will there be more than one ad network supported?

I really hope that Scirra's reticence to comment about these features is because they are saving the news for a future blog post

Still no response to this question Ashley , Tom ?

I see you guys answering lots of other questions about C3, why not this one?

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Just wondering if you'd also be maintaining new plugins for connecting to GooglePlay Services and Apple's GameCentre for achievements and leaderboards?

From the blog post:

[quote:2l20brgf]We'll also provide brand-new IAP and ad plugins for iOS and Android, as well as building and maintaining the underlying Cordova plugins ourselves. This should minimise any difficulties with configuration or third-party libraries.

tgeorgemihai Thanks for those links. I was lucky enough for Cluckles to get reviewed on a few different websites, but these ones are new to me

Id rather not discuss Cluckles here TGeorgeMihai, just to keep the thread on topic. Post in my thread here if you'd like to chat more about it.

Cheers

I'm sure this is something that most of us are hoping for. My guess would be that they aren't answering here because they are saving the reveal for a future blog post.

Burvey you might be right about that. They are probably saving this up for a future reveal. I hope so

I feel like maybe its too obvious a question... The Scirra devs are probably thinking "Of course we are going to provide that, just sit back and wait for us to announce things in our own time and stop trying to pre-empt all our good news!".

I mean it seems really unlikely that official plugins for iAPs and ads would get upgraded and become officially maintained by Scirra while plugins for connecting to GameCentre and GooglePlay Services would be left to third party solutions.

If Scirra maintain plugins for GooglePlay, GameCentre, maybe Steam?, maybe WinPhone?, iAPs, some different ad networks, that would easily be worth the annual subscription price imo.

I think its likely this will happen, because that seemed to be the original vision for C2. C2 has official plugins for those things, its just that in recent times they weren't maintained and users came to rely on third party options that worked better, I guess because Scirra was prioritizing their time and energy on building C3.

I must admit I was one of the people who was all in an uproar about a subscription payment model. But the Scirra blog post about the new mobile app build system, and updated iAP/ad plugins sounds super awesome! Ill be purchasing C3 as soon as its available.

Bump Ashley , Tom

Is this a dumb question? Or too obvious or something?

I haven't seen it discussed anywhere else?

Tom

You guys mentioned in your recent blog post that you'd be maintaining new plugins for iAP and ads for mobile apps.

Just wondering if you'd also be maintaining new plugins for connecting to GooglePlay Services and Apple's GameCentre for achievements and leaderboards?

Another question, when you say you'd provide plugins for ads, is that just for AdMob or wld you maintain plugins for other providers too? Chartboost, AppLovin, others?

If this has already been discussed in another thread can someone pls link me.

Ah ok thanks rex.