Well I must concur - you are doing a pretty good job.

In an effort to help you find a solution to win 8 export issue I did some playing around today, so here is what I have found...

- your Windows 8 issue: ..... the issue is minor - it doesn't stop anyone accessing anything, only makes it a little more annoying. So for the time being the issue remains open.

I agree it is minor - to a degree.

It is annoying, yes, when the panel closes when clicking the back button.

But as stated, it is more than that, because it does stop the user accessing options presented to them. If they click any hyper links they don't work - it just closes the Charms and does nothing else, which is not good from a PR perspective - imagine an average end user clicking a link to send an email for support and it does nothing, what would they conclude from that?

I am thinking that it may not be the plugin that is at fault.

This morning I did a few install\uninstalls of C2 and found that up until r123 the Win8 Export works perfectly, including any hyper links - however with the release of R124 and all iterations after, the export no longer functions as intended.

This would seam to indicate that the plugin is not at fault here, something was introduced\changed in R124 that has broken both Scirra and iunkin's win8 objects.

There are a number of apps in the store built with C2, Mortar Melon, Battleship Islands, Ballo, Blast The Bricks, to name a few, that also illustrate that the plugins do work (the back button and any hyperlinks all function as expected), but these were built with versions prior to at least r119 I believe. This would seam to indicate that it is not Windows8 causing the issue.

So hopefully all this gives you a starting point to know where to look for a possible solution - start with what was added\changed in R124 that could be causing the issue....

Pixel perfick

Yeah I definitely agree, C2 is an excellent tool....

The problem with the crashes is that usually you have no option but to kill C2 with Task Manager - and there is no error dialog to report what caused it.

In earlier days this most likely would have led to the 'Blue Screen Of Death', so they are not trivial....

Hi thehen,

Well, I was mainly thinking about the random crashes that are seaming very common - and I know that such are very difficult to trace and fix - but these simply do exist, and many people are having the problem.

IMHO since this does not affect the end product I don't mind dealing with it - but still it needs to be addressed.

A minor bug: There is a problem with Win8 export that I posted some time ago. This bug is only minor in scope but it is a bug - and it DOES affect the end product.

It was introduced some time after r119 and still exists after several beta releases and the latest Stable release...

The real issue for me in this case is that when I first came across the issue and reported it, I was using a third party Metro plugin and was advised to use the Scirra Windows8 object to avoid such problems. So I reluctantly remove the plugin and updated my code to use the Scirra one - and the problem is still there... Hence not only does the bug still exist, but I spent considerable time updating code - all to no avail..

This serves to illustrate that something was changed\introduced that broke two plugins - a third party one and an official one - and surely is worthy of correction before a release is considered stable.

First up let me say that I really like - no, LOVE - C2, period!

Secondly, this topic is in no way intended to be a slur. C2 is a fantastic tool and both Ashley and Tom deserve well earned praise - these guys are doing an awesome job!

Thirdly, I think it would be true to say that most people using C2 view it as a real-world production tool - not simply as a toy, and rightly so - it is not uncommon to see Construct 2 referred to as Ground Breaking on the web.

So on with it then:

Now to be sure everyone likes to see new features added - it really is very cool!

But it is also very important to fix known bugs first - or at least I think it is.

If you visit the bugs section of this forum you will notice that certain bugs have been unresolved - even after many updates have been released, in fact some of them have been unresolved since I started using C2 (version r114) - some are minor some are not so minor - but they are all BUGS.

It doesn't matter if a bug is minor, major, or in between, a bug is a bug and should be resolved as quickly as possible and certainly before any stable release is posted.

Now I know Scirra is just a small team - but this tool is no small puppy - so it is only reasonable to be patient for new features. I really think that most C2 users would prefer bug-fixes over feature additions.

What I would like to see:

      1) Stop adding features - just for a while

      2) Iron out the bugs

      3) Release 'Stable' update - with no known bugs

      4) Add next awesome feature

      5) Release Beta - expect bugs to crop up

      6) Start at step 1 again...

Ashley

thehen

The problem goes further:

If you click a hyper link to email or web the charms bar just closes and the link is ignored....

I think it may be memory related.

I have had this problem since I started using C2 (R114 - Personal Edition), and it was getting to be a real pain.

However I have recently upgraded my graphics card to one with 2 Gig of ram (previously one had 1 gig)and the crashes are far less common since the up grade.....

Hi Ashley,

I agree it is a minor issue, but it does detract from typical Charms behaviour.

This has only started happening in recent releases of C2 - R119 and at least R122 worked fine.

So something has changed since then either with C2 or Windows8...

Perhaps you could query MS about it....

Good morning Ashley,

Any heads up on this - I have a game that's almost ready to release to the Store.....

Hi Ashley,

Just to let you know that the problem still persists in R126.

Link to .capx file (required!):

http:// Is already included in C2 templates

Steps to reproduce:

1. In C2 open a new Windows8 Project template

2. Add some details for Author and Description

3. Export as windows8

4. Open in visual studio

5. Double-Click the package.appxmanifest file in Solution Explorer

6. Select the Packaging Tab

7. Click 'Choose Certificate\Configure Certificate' and 'Create test certificate

8. Run the application

9. Invoke the Settings Charm

10 Select 'About' 'Support' or 'Privacy Policy' option

11. Click the back arrow in the Charms Bar title area

Observed result:

The Charms panel closes

Expected result:

Should return to the Settings panel

Browsers affected:

Chrome: yes/no

Firefox: yes/no

Internet Explorer: yes/no

Operating system & service pack:

Windows8 Pro

Construct 2 version:

r125 beta

Hi all,

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3) Using the back arrow on the Charms bar header just closes the panel

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Ashley, the same thing happens with the scirra Windows8 object....

thehen - Hi,

In particular having music and sound controls in preferences gives a consistent feel to other win8 apps, and having the reset option on same preferences panel is a nice touch.

Also good to be able to test-purchase.

Not sure how roaming works with scirra's plugin, but iunkn's plugin works with AsJSON....