[quote:kahghaz8]Here's a new definition then. For something to be art, the creator must have the intention of making art. The creator must also have an understanding of what art is. A childs painting isn't art. A moron who saw some dadaist calling a toilet art, and decides to do the same thing, doesn't nescessarily make art.
I see the point, but I would iterate that to a parent, that child's painting could be the most beautiful thing in the world. Then I would say that knowledge of art has less to do with it then the want, or need to create. After all the cavemen knew nothing about dadaism, or abstract, or realism, or even what a collage was.
Also:
[quote:kahghaz8]Yelling at someone who cuts you off in traffic isn't art, and that is a form of expression.
I've know several people who have tried to elevate that to an art form.
It was stunning to say the least.