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At first glance it looked like a BYOND "engine" game <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz"> But yeah, C2 is great for rapid prototyping and web game dev <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy">

Edit: And, of course, someone is already re-creating it in BYOND lmao http://www.byond.com/forum/?post=1888377

Perhaps some if the issues are due to the platform behaviour. Reason for this line of thought: I notice most people who never run into any slow-down issues (besides possibly having a way-better computer than the average Steam user and phone) are not using the platform behaviour. Although, The Next Penelope had to go native to get on console (WiiU to start) too, but that might just be because WiiU had no WebGL support.

Meanwhile, every game I've made with the platform behaviour in C2 tends to be noticeably slower, jankier, and buggier (slopes) than my current native-engine progress in Unity, or even previous work in Construct Classic. Anyone else notice this?

Mortar Melon is one of the only mobile games I've seen in C2 that was well received so far: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mortar- ... 70333?mt=8

However, that doesn't necessarily mean there aren't any others. There's a lot of people (and businesses) using C2 who aren't active on the forums.

The base product is on a decent sale but you'll probably want to the developer upgrade (and any number of runtimes) to get serious with making games.

Clickteam products aren't all that bad. After all, Construct (Classic) started as a product inspired by them, and Ashley used to make amazing plugins for their products under the company "Tigerworks" before starting Scirra.

It's just not as intuitive as Construct has become, some things feel really strange when you've used Construct enough (CC or C2 are both huge improvements editor-wise over TGF, MMF, MMF 2, MMF 2.5, and even MMF 3 looks like they're up to the same old tricks again).

However, I sorely miss the native runtimes/exporting of Click/CC

> I could imagine that even if Construct doesn't go real-3D (officially anyway, since there's already the awesome 3D plugin Quazi made), it would still be useful to be able to render to two different canvases (left eye and right eye) to create a Nintendo 3DS pop-out effect for a Mode7 style Space Harrier game or something.

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> Although the same effect can be done with the same methods of GIF tricks like these and a single canvas:

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> http://www.maddocman.com/wiggle-3d.htm

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> http://twistedsifter.com/2014/02/adding ... mensional/

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Just a random question here.

Is it possible to achieve that 3DS popout effect without using 2 different sprites, perhaps with using WebGL effects?

I'd imagine it's possible to fake yeah, maybe anything that has the effect applied has a parameter to set "how far" they're spread apart then either do anaglyph (red-blue for each eye old 3D style), or separate eyes in a VR headset if Construct ever supports that.

Totimundo Google translate is fine if you don't have time or energy to translate, but it might be good to include it with every post, eg: the one above saying

"I have understood that the mere 3d , operates using blue and red, but not a bit difficult dx"

I could imagine that even if Construct doesn't go real-3D (officially anyway, since there's already the awesome 3D plugin Quazi made), it would still be useful to be able to render to two different canvases (left eye and right eye) to create a Nintendo 3DS pop-out effect for a Mode7 style Space Harrier game or something.

Although the same effect can be done with the same methods of GIF tricks like these and a single canvas:

http://www.maddocman.com/wiggle-3d.htm

http://twistedsifter.com/2014/02/adding ... mensional/

Re-created the CapX in C2 R192 (original crashed upon downgrade):

-Google Chrome on Windows 10 64bit

-Enabled: 0.7% to 1.5% engine, and 1.7% to 2.9% draw calls

-Disabled: 0.5% engine, and 0.1% draw calls

Capx for R192: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/471 ... st192.capx

spy84 Yeah, I self-taught/learned bit of a couple different programming languages online as well as taken 2 years of programming classes in highschool (technically A-Level Computing). The C# was what I was more comfortable with, but the nice thing about it is that there is also support for JavaScript which can run without too much slow-down (since it still runs the heavy processing/GPU bits of the engine natively).

But yes, we found that Mac and Linux and any other non-Windows exports were not successful for our C2 games, but that might be different in newer versions as Silverforce was saying up top!

— Ouch, yeah, C3 has some hope, although it has been said it will be using the same runtime as Construct 2 already, so only the editor will change at this point it seems:

"C3 will be using the same runtime as C2 so it should be highly compatible. However at this point it's simply too early to say anything for sure. "

— Glad to hear! We're stuck on an older version of NW.js (NodeWebkit 10.5) as anything newer seems to break our game at the moment (platforming behaviour also goes through some crazy changes after C2 r192).

And Fervir I've heard that Construct 2 has been so much more optimized than CC that you could get a bit more performance out of it with Google Chrome: https://www.scirra.com/blog/102/html5-g ... han-native

That link doesn't mean C2 is going to be faster than all native engines though, as JavaScript will always have some % of overhead over other languages like C++ which CC is made with, but it means that a few things are way more optimized in C2 than CC.

However, I did find with our game (which uses the NW/native EXE wrapper), that performance often didn't match that comparison, with CC feeling smoother when we compared against fairly large platformer projects we made in CC before our Steam game (eg: less jank and lag in CC, but I hear that is much improved in newer NW.js versions for C2, and the platformer behaviour seems way less buggy/has less missed collisions in CC when the game starts to drop below 60fps).

Again, this might be fixed in newer versions of C2, but we haven't had any luck with our game remaining functional when we tried updating. Our game is too large (and copyrighted) to "upload a capx" to the public bugs section so if you're making a big game it's worth making it modular so you can present any bugs you might find separate from the entire game as well.

Download the Construct Classic examples kit in my signature, I think I have some sound file examples there. Otherwise you can also download the entire source to my I Had Hope alpha made in Construct Classic on that blog, which will definitely have code for playing audio from a file.

In the example Zenox98 says, the music and sounds have to be in a folder called "sounds" that is at the same level as the game project file (.cap) or exectuable (.exe) when exported.

Hope that helps!

Thinking about something along the lines of

150 unique enemies

20 boss monsters to fight

30+ tilesets and probably 500 unique rooms to explore

200+ unique items that have different functions that do not simply increase a stat by +2.

A puzzle system with probably about 50 unique elements that can be mixed around and connected to each other.

A game that big I'd say start off with an aim for/promise of Windows PC only, especially if you're using NW.js to wrap it into an EXE/executable. Our Kickstarter backers took it pretty hard when the game turned out not to run on Linux, Mac, and etc. like we hoped it would.

Our game stopped working properly on Linux and Mac (think Mac is broken for all with NW.js right now?) by the time it was 300MB in size ( http://store.steampowered.com/app/334190/ ), even though most of the size was music (full 8bit and 16bit soundtrack).

We've switched to another engine for future games, but that's mostly for non-Windows export options, not just because performance on Windows alone (another tip would be try to minimize CPU usage as it really breaks the platforming behaviour once some jank gets in there, but that might be better with the newest version of NW.js).

Other than that, yeah C2 can do some pretty cool stuff <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8-)" title="Cool">