Howdy folks:) Just wanted to share my point of view on all of this. First i removed all of the out-of-topic comments on the ghosthunter download page. Arguing between mmf and construct is really silly if you think about it. Since all we are here for is to make cool games.

The tools we are using be it may a clickteam product, construct, flash or c++ should not make a difference at all in my opinion. Now for the demo that was uploaded, i see why some people go on and jump in defence mode since it looks and plays like a simmilar demo that was made for construct but the idea behind this was to show what mmf2 can do now, it is even open source so people can see how it was made, that in my opinion is the difference. If this was a demo for a game that was in the making or if it was not open source that would have been a different story as it is now however i think everyone should just see this as a technical open source demo.

That's all, i do not see any reason why our 2 communties can't help eachother and share our creativity. Instead of fighting lets work together.

Have a good night folks,

Rikus

You're right

I don't love you Dines. My love is always and only for Ashley. <3

I know. I program and give away Construct for free. All I ask is that you don't get in to flame wars in the first place that indirectly damage the reputation of what I otherwise consider to be an excellent program and community.

Too much to ask?

Nope, and I didn't flame. Flame = insulting each other

I just talked much polite as possible and explained my points.

Call it unrealistic to not expect flamewars on the internet, but it's still no excuse to have them in the first place. That download has now well and truly descended from talking about the download to senseless arguing over two programs.

One week bans for anyone else who comments on the download. You have a half an hour grace period to read this message.

As you can see, 20 minutes ago, I stopped it

I probably would keeped it going you wouldn't asked, because these things are pretty ordinary. There are no worries, it's just talking over the internet.

I don't know SuperV, that was somehow more entertaing than Team Fortress 2 ... Warhammer though, you got me!

BLASPHEMY!

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Oh sure, I think that too [Re: SuperV]. I just want the journey there to be smooth

I'm going to go ahead and directly ask you to stop your post battle with 'Mr Sneeze'. He blames you for moaning about the demo, yet he made a point of moaning about my demo. This is clearly not a mind you're going to make any progress with, so forget it. What I think would be funny is if everyone goes and rates my demo 1 star, but we all rated their demo 5 stars. I get a kick out of stuff like that

Edited to clarify post timing

Ok, time to play warhammer or team fortress 2 then

OT : Is there someone that plays steam games? If so, add me : victorius72

Ashley, open your eyes. Construct will stomp Clickteam's tools, you've made an awesome program! It's not an opinion, it's a fact! I can see you in the future becoming one of the best developers ever. You have great potentiality, Construct has too. It's a fact, it's not an opinion

It's not like that - while yes, Construct is open source and MMF costs money, these are facts - you present them as a strong opinion (ie. nothing can possibly be better than Construct, etc). This is not realistic. MMF is mature software, so has fewer bugs, and a larger userbase, and a few other things like more plugins - all positive points. I'm flattered by your passion for Construct, but you must keep perspective - remember, I would still advise someone working on a commercial or otherwise important project to use mature software, be it MMF, GameMaker, or waiting until 1.0 comes around. Construct still might nuke your file or make it 3.2 gigabytes, heh.

So the point is, while I'm not asking to control your activities on the internet, I'm urging everyone to keep a realistic view, don't lose your heads, and hey, it's only an internet rating. Rate it 5 stars since they seem to take it so seriously

It was 3,4

Also, I'm realistic. Construct has bugs, but it's better. It's the example on how a single developer can beat a big company. Construct 1.0 will be the best game-creation program ever.

Until construct 2.

I'm not flaming, I'm speaking the truth.

But it's fun! It keeps me occupied and makes me laugh.

> "Five stars. Way better than any construct sillyness. A shame people that have used click products for so many years suddenly become little scirra fanboys."

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> I lol'd.

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Me too... hmmm its like "Microsoft Vs Linux" dont you agree? Its getting more stupid.

Microsoft ftw... wait... umm...

Yes, I'm a Microsoft fanboy, I admit it.

But when I use a program better than another, I can recognize it.

Construct > MMF. You can't disagree.

Windows > Linux. You can disagree, it's a question of which one you like most.

"Five stars. Way better than any construct sillyness. A shame people that have used click products for so many years suddenly become little scirra fanboys."

I lol'd.