CONSTRUCT 3+ (Offline! One-time payment!)

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    Please make

    Offline

    Construct3

    without a subscription.

    one-time payment.

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    Construct and Construct2!

    (many people don't have good Internet connection)

    =)

    Have you read the numerous threads that have already discussed this ad nauseum?

    Not happening.

    Actually Construct 3 has an offline Desktop Build. And Construct 3 won't always prompt you to re-login to check your subscription status.

    Desktop Build Link:

    construct.net/forum/construct-3/general-discussion-7/construct-3-desktop-build-beta-131317

    For more info ::

    construct.net/make-games/faq

    nelostic as above Construct works offline if you have a subscription for about 1 week... then you need to connect to internet for 1 minute or more... for the license to be re-validated.

    If you don't have a license it works offline forever.

    All you have to do is go to editor.construct.net give it around 5 minutes or less depending on your internet connection and you are ready to go!

    P.S that bearded fabulous guy looks cool!

    When I am in Botswana, there is only a very poor internet connection and I can use Construct 3 without any problem.

    The offline version works fine.

    A one time payment kills the resources for the developer fast. Imagine you working for your boss and your boss pays you only one month. How many months are you gonna work for that boss for that one time salary?

    That is exactly what you are asking from Scirra with your one time payment. How is Scirra gonna pay their developers? Their families?

    Tell me when the initial one time payment source is drying up, how will Scirra find the funds to add new features, constantly improve. Or does that not matter as long as you have your one time payment.

    Please be serious. The subscription model is so much better than the lifetime licenses for C2. The subscription model will guarantee Scirra a constant flow of revenue which on its turn can be used to add new features, platforms and pay the developers.

    Do you really want to use a tool with a very insecure financial future or doesn't it matter as long as you can hack and clone around?

    Really, I get tired of this kind of threads showing up from time to time.

    Do you know what; if you don't have the money, learn JavaScript, Python and code your game yourself. Both languages are free, you do not have to pay anything. And when you finally finished your game, give it for free to the internet. Lets see how long Nelostic will be happy.

    Your bad internet is a very poor excuse and you know it. You want things for free but only the sun goes up for free every day and even that will come to an end in the very far future.

    When I am in Botswana, there is only a very poor internet connection and I can use Construct 3 without any problem.

    The offline version works fine.

    A one time payment kills the resources for the developer fast. Imagine you working for your boss and your boss pays you only one month. How many months are you gonna work for that boss for that one time salary?

    That is exactly what you are asking from Scirra with your one time payment. How is Scirra gonna pay their developers? Their families?

    Tell me when the initial one time payment source is drying up, how will Scirra find the funds to add new features, constantly improve. Or does that not matter as long as you have your one time payment.

    Please be serious. The subscription model is so much better than the lifetime licenses for C2. The subscription model will guarantee Scirra a constant flow of revenue which on its turn can be used to add new features, platforms and pay the developers.

    Do you really want to use a tool with a very insecure financial future or doesn't it matter as long as you can hack and clone around?

    Really, I get tired of this kind of threads showing up from time to time.

    Do you know what; if you don't have the money, learn JavaScript, Python and code your game yourself. Both languages are free, you do not have to pay anything. And when you finally finished your game, give it for free to the internet. Lets see how long Nelostic will be happy.

    Your bad internet is a very poor excuse and you know it. You want things for free but only the sun goes up for free every day and even that will come to an end in the very far future.

    I'm not gonna lie this is a stupid argument.

    Plenty of companies run off of buy a product once model so that whole argument is dumb. A better engine will draw more customers which keeps the influx of money going without having to charge someone every year. Also that whole " your boss pay you one time" is bad logic... Sorry but they're a company not an employee working for a company.. Customers pay them one time yeah... but there is a lot of customers and new customers show up all the time.

    A Tool shouldn't be based on if the company is doing good or not, That's just bad design.

    Also what are these new features? I haven't seen much of anything except for a hand full of things but defiantly nothing that suggest $100 a year from every customer they have.

    "Really, I get tired of this kind of threads showing up from time to time." Deal with it, Many people don't like the subscription model and no one is forcing you to read these type of post or even better make a stupid comment. People have the right to express their opinion and honestly who cares what you get tired of king nothing.

    "You want things for free" No he didn't say for free, If you actually read what he wrote he's talking about PAYING FOR THE ENGINE!

    Also another thing is yeah anyone can learn C# or Java or any of that, But Construct is a TOOL!

    "How is Scirra gonna pay their developers? Their families?"

    Hmmmm I don't know let's see here... hmmmmm Oh! I got it, BY SELLING COPIES OF CONSTRUCT 3!!!

    A Subscription model doesn't mean you'll get a better product or that the company will grow, All it's done is alienate half of the community. Another thing it wouldn't be so bad if they didn't leave Construct 2 in the terrible shape that it's in.

    Have you read the numerous threads that have already discussed this ad nauseum?

    Not happening.

    If they're so "numerous" shouldn't that make you guys as a company take a second look at the subscription model. Hmm Why not have a Subscription model AND a One Time Life Time payment Option.

    Think about it. Most people are only going to use Construct 3 for maybe 1-2 years. So you'll get max $100-$200 per person.

    If you did a $300 Life Time One Time Payment you'll actually earn more money...

    I paid on average $700 each year, for about 5 years, to Autodesk for maintenance of Softimage ( 3D modeling and animation ).

    That is pretty much the same as subscription. Gave me continuous access to all new features and so on.

    In those 5 years I think they added some 3D cube in the upper right corner which you could click on and rotate to rotate the view. Never used it because you had always been able to do exactly the same thing by holding down the S key and using your mouse to rotate.

    So about $3500 for that. Then they decided to kill off Softimage and tried to force everybody to switch to their other 3D programs, Maya or 3DS Max. Fortunately enough people complained about it, so they decided to let us use Softimage perpetually.

    Right now they only offer subscription and prices are insane, so I quit the whole thing, but at least I can continue to use the latest version I had registered when I let my maintenance contract expire. There is pretty much no functional difference between Maya 2018, Maya 2015 or Softimage 2015 vs. whatever year . It's all the same thing. That is why they and a lot of other companies want subscription. There simply isn't anything left to add to warrant upgrade prices, so they want to force you into software rental instead of ownership. Same for audio software, video, whatever. It all peaked a long time ago. It is all the same thing now as it was 5 years ago or even 10 years ago. The only thing that's different is support for newer file formats, video resolutions and so on. Actual editing, modeling, animation, whatever software does is exactly the same. If you look at Construct 3 vs. 2 you will see pretty much the same thing.

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    Well they could go with some other methods such as pay per export, or pay per game slot, but those would have some have some negative cavates such as a premiums for having to develop it, and store project files on their server.

    As I recall a lot of people got their panties in a bunch over the idea that they can't do anything with project files without the editor, so not having access to your own source files would probably tie them into a knot, but thats how that kind of plan would have to work.

    I love one time payment!

    I can pay 100 200 300$

    But.

    Subscribe is not cool for me.

    This is very creepy.

    What if construct 3 will close?

    After You create construct 4,

    You create offline construct 3? :))

    The point of the subscription is that there would never "be" a Construct 4.

    At the same time, I imagine if they ever move into 3D and VR/AR territory they would rebrand or sell as a sub-product (eg: "Construct 3: Dimensions" would be pretty clever).

    If C3 had a one-time purchase price, the only way to keep it fair to everyone who subscribes would be to make it basically the same value as subscribing for 10+ years.

    Perhaps even better would be a multi-year purchase discount, eg: buy 5 years and get the next two free (7 for 5).

    Subscribe is not cool for me.

    This is very creepy.

    What if construct 3 will close?

    Either you get to keep Construct 3 or not after Scirra closes. It still won't be practically usable anymore. For example, right now, while Scirra is still active. There are still a lot of issues because digital technology is always volatile. It is always innovating and changing, and that leaves an opening for bugs and issues.

    Besides, you get the same risk for any software or technology.And if Scirra does fully closes, Construct 3 and Construct 2 will most probably get open-sourced. And be left out like Construct Classic as non-maintained.

    By subscribing, you are ensuring a prolonged service. But from a more expensive one-time-payment, initially could prove very profitable but doesn't ensure the long-term condition of the company.

    Subscription-based service is more practical for Scirra at the moment, as online services make it harder for piracy. Especially since Scirra is a small team based company.

    Not quite the same risk. Even huge Hollywood studios sometimes keep very old software and machines simply because they work.

    In my case as long as I have a PC that will run my 4 year old, abandoned by Autodesk, Softimage I can continue to use it. So far it even works on new PCs and windows 10.

    In another case a very cool 3rd party plugin for Softimage I cannot use on any new computers because it is not supported any more and registration servers are gone. That is what some people are afraid of I guess.

    We have no idea what will happen, and it's always better to have a perpetual license than subscription.

    BadMario

    Not quite the same risk. Even huge Hollywood studios sometimes keep very old software and machines simply because they work.

    In my case as long as I have a PC that will run my 4 year old, abandoned by Autodesk, Softimage I can continue to use it. So far it even works on new PCs and windows 10.

    In another case a very cool 3rd party plugin for Softimage I cannot use on any new computers because it is not supported any more and registration servers are gone. That is what some people are afraid of I guess.

    We have no idea what will happen, and it's always better to have a perpetual license than subscription.

    Animation Editors and Image Editors are different from software creation tools. Far from it. Because those tools can live years without needing to upgrade even though updates make it easier in the long run.I know this since I use some of those tools and etc...

    Adobe Products too, which I use like 8 of those applications. And right now I'm still using CS6.

    I'll give you some problems that rose up on Construct 3 that needed support and was fixed by quick support.

    And this is just from a few months from now.

    1. Just after IphoneX was released, we had scaling issues on mobile.
    2. After GDPR, advertisement monetization plugins were unusable.
    3. Webview bug issues from Android, caused WebGL2 not usable.
    4. NWJS updates breaking, crashing and losing performance.
    5. Safari breaking web workers. Making applications, games and plugins on IOS to break.
    6. Update Editor to the latest Chrome version.
    7. Update NWJS to the latest version.
    8. Update the plugin list whitelist.
    9. Maintain the Cloud Build Service. Increase the cloud build service limit.
    10. Maintain the Cloud Build Service. Fix cloud build service sudden error.
    11. Update the Cloud Build to the latest Cordova CLI version.
    12. Update the Cordova Export Configurations to the latest Cordova CLI Verion.
    13. Maintain the remote preview server.
    14. Re-configure for support to the latest Android Target SDK.
    15. Re-adjust the the Android Minimum SDK.
    16. Re-configure for support to the latest IOS Minimum Version.
    17. Re-adjust the the IOS Minimum Version.
    18. Support new HTML5 performance boost technologies.
    19. Support new HTML5 innovative technologies.
    20. Fix Runtime conflicts and bugs.
    21. Fix Editor conflicts and bugs.

    Those are just part of it... There are so many things to implement as technology progresses. And a company that runs a Software Creation Tool should always be up-to-date, innovative, well maintained, well-supported and at its peak against its competitors. For the best condition for its customers.

    Those are for the few months. Imagine running Construct 3 without a year of updates, maintenance, improvements and innovation. I bet you would have stopped using it long before then. If not, then it's a bad judgement call.

    Look at Construct Classic, that's a good example.

    I hope that shed some light on the subject.

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