App Making Software?

The only thing I hate about C3 is, it projects itself only a Game Making Software while it has immense potential for application development even on its current state but If they introduce some basic tool akin to what Thunkable offering and some Android/iOS templates, I bet most people will stop using Android Studio.

cc Ashley

What do you think?

The engine has specialized features for games and is focused on games. It can make apps well, but that's as a bi-product of just being a good 2D engine. I think on Scirra's part what their idea is to market it as what it's intended for - games - and people who find it useful for app creation will be pleasantly surprised versus if they advertise it as a App creation / Game creation platform, and people will be disappointed by it's limitations.

The engine has specialized features for games and is focused on games. It can make apps well, but that's as a bi-product of just being a good 2D engine. I think on Scirra's part what their idea is to market it as what it's intended for - games - and people who find it useful for app creation will be pleasantly surprised versus if they advertise it as a App creation / Game creation platform, and people will be disappointed by it's limitations.

Well, I can totally understand your point, people may be disappointed but they will not if Scirra advertise it in such a manner, like C3 can never be used to create utility software which does native system-level kinds of stuff, but can easily be used to create a basic application, like Point of Sale app, Inventory Management app, education/learning app, eCommerce app etc. It can be achieved on C3 on its current states,

While digging through Construct community I have found This thread, I amazed what people are ably achieved through C2. However, it would be convenient if they introduced some tool specific to those subjects.

For those of us who develop apps or app-sy games this is the main limiation of Construct:

it is not well suited for developing user interfaces.

Whereas Construct excels at game creation, game logic etc., a lot of game staples such as popup boxes, scrollable menus, inventories etc. usually require clever "making it work" via various things that are not normally designed for this purpose.

For example, most of what I create involves some sort of a scrollable panel, be it a level list or a menu, and it's always a pain in the butt to set it up; pinning stuff together, clamping, easing, including invisible objects and whatnot. I understand that in classic programming this sort of stuff may involve even more intricate tinkering but considering how easy and straightforward it is, for example, to have a platformer sprite, it's a bit of a cognitive dissonance.

Also basic non-game-y elements such as text, textboxes, checkboxes etc. behave their own way since they use the standard HTMl5 controls (e.g. they float over the canvas so you can't cover them with anything). A dream come true would be if all these were rewritten as "native" C3 objects but I assume that would be a whole new undertaking that would also take some focus away from what's most important.

Still I surely wouldn't be averse to some more Ui related features/facilities/tools (the frickin scrollviews!).

The elements needed for gui already exist.

They do not exist as a premade template, or sharable form.

That is something we as a community could do. It's doable as copy and paste, although a little more complicated.

Well, Lets Hope.