I have a strange problem at the moment.

I have an action that's meant to be activated when the character

has stopped moving, via the platform behavior controls.

When I run the project, it works perfectly.

However when I run the debug.....it doesn't register it at all?

It acts as if the character doesn't stop moving, even though

visibly it has?

Has anyone encountered anything like this previously, discrepancies

between running the game and running it in debug, and if so please

have you been able to find a solution?

This is a really frustrating problem to have, because it could be

occurring with things I can't identify as easily as this.

I'd really appreciate any help I can get with this

Damn sorry to hear, goodluck with the job!!

I hope someones able to pick this up, you'd built a great ground for this scidave :)

Thank you very very much :)!

I hope everything goes your way with your own endeavors too ^^

I'm really sorry, I never at all expected you to expand what I had

updated for an additional example, otherwise I would have given additional

details to the direction I was moving with my own in progress expansion.

And yeah, ifile.it is the fastest along with mediafire for normal files,

however I'm not used to uploading things under 1mb so I didn't consider

the time it takes to navigate through the pages with the captcha etc.

I just want to stress, your first example was epic, so please don't take

any of my criticism of your hard work on expanding the example I posted

to heart, as I greatly appreciate the unexpected additional update.

Also these may be quite nit-picky, but I've lost my mind with all the

ridiculous problems I'm having in my current project so I need to build

up an as perfect as possible test file before taking the extensive time

required to adjust my current project to the adjusted formula.

#1]

The problem created with the wallsensor now being the object that detects

when to change gravity, is that it can reach the conditions to change

gravity, without rotating the feet or sprite/wall sensor.

http://i.imgur.com/9xxwK.png

Also the wall sensor wouldn't work with a an actual sprite, because

it creates a bounding box over the character ignoring the current

shape/pose of the character on the screen.

I also really liked the feel of the character reaching the wall then

the gravity changing moments later when the detector caught up (as

it lags behind a moment).

Another reason is this re-introduces one of the any problems I have been

currently facing, because even if you made the wall detector the actual

sprite, it would mean when the animation changes the character could end

up off wall when it's rotation changes, instead of sticking to it like

it did with the detector/feet before.

#2]With the changes to the shape of both the feet and the detector,

this now occurs at angles

http://i.imgur.com/QXvhr.png

#3]The adjusted foot shape also reintroduces the largest risk which

is what was originally theoretically solved in the first example you sent,

with the width now larger than the height, when it rotates because of

the change in gravity at corners it's at risk of being pushed through

the wall.

#4]This is mostly because I was certainly not expecting another example,

which again I'm most grateful for.

Though the FixZOne is a nice way to force the gravity change back,

I didn't mention that you could jump to the right (relative to the

characters angle when on the left wall) into the ground, and have

gravity change back.

Also I was intending in my expansion of the example to eventually get

around to having gravity automatically restore back to the down direction

when the feet object reaches the 'falling' state after jumping.

Also the issue with that object, is that you have it set the angle of

everything to 0, regardless of it's current gravity (so that now when

traveling from the start location and jumping through that object,

the character's rotation goes to 0, before changing again when landing).

Another problem is that when you fall through that and it changes

your gravity, it doesn't change the gravitydirection global variable,

and the detector stays to the left of you (because it is going to x+10).

I hope these explanations of problems somehow help you in anything you

do in the future so you can avoid the issues I have had to face.

On a positive note, your wallsensor did give me a good idea of how to

deal with rotating the character towards the wall angle early automatically.

Again, thanks for taking this time to help! ^^

Though I didn't want to get into more details of the experiment because

I want to keep it mostly secret, don't want to leave you after all my

responses without an indication of the direction I was going and why

your changes for the most part didn't work without anything Dx,

soo,

here's my current progress I've made further in my experiment.

Uploaded to dropbox this time :)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16494399/ExperimentalRotation_2_02.cap

Though I wouldn't mind/be happy to hear a response again from you about

this, I really can't divulge any more of the direction of gameplay and

changes I'm making to this, or updates of my experiments, sorry Dx

Again thank you for all your help, I'd still be absolutely lost if it

weren't for your response, now I have a direction to go in which might

be able to get things functioning :D! You've got no idea how much of my

mind I have lost lately because of this O_O;

Can't express the amount of thanks! ^^

Looks incredible, damn I wish I had artistic talent =_=...

No matter what you say about game design, having good art in a game makes

getting support a lot easier, not that I mean anything against this project

by that, the gameplay is great.

Only problem is, like the issues I'm currently having in my own project

which involves gravity, when you change the gravity angle close to a

corner, it's easy to have the character pop through to the other side.

Also It would be nice if you changed the controls when on the roof so

that pressing right would move him to the right, relative to your screen,

rather than relative to himself.

So flip the controls so left moves right, right moves left.

It's something you can get used to, but it'd bring new players in a lot

easier I feel if the gameplay set the difficulty, not the control scheme.

And complements to the art design, looks incredible!!

Such great direction has gone into it, it's awesome to look at :).

My only criticism is when I went into the first game level, it's a bit

hard to see the doors because the background seems to bright, compared

to the tutorial levels where the contrast felt perfect.

Looks incredible :D.

Only things I have problem's with (have tried both exe's), is there seems

to be a pause/lag? when you drop an object onto the surface, before it

falls through. And not a realistic one you'd expect when something hit's

the surface, but a very delayed response, especially when the object

then continues to fall all the way to the ground.

Also from a realistic perspective, the objects float up too slow for how

far they jump out of the water before landing down again.

If they were to be thrown out of the water because of there buoyancy

and velocity in going upwards, they need to float up faster.

But really really awesome demo, the water separating and falling onto/over

the objects looks brilliant.

That helped a ridiculous amount :D!!!

Brilliant, brilliant example, thank you so much!

I do have some fears with areas of my design to whether this will work,

but it's definitely promising and really well done.

The rotation coming from that separate object keeps the platform object

from rotating through the wall which should solve all of my problems,

it's just really all the directions of gravity and specific angle changes

that are set up in mine that may be difficult to reproduce when split

across those objects and the actual sprite.

You've given me hope just as I was seriously considering having to

give a lot of this up, thank you so much!

Here's your cap I've been working on today to try and push it closer

to what I'm working on to test it's functionality.

Made a couple of minor changes like adding sensors on the corners so

that the sprite didn't flicker between angles when the detector was

overlapping 2 'FootREV' objects.

Also made the platform object spherical so moving along steeper angles

didn't leave the sprite floating above the ground.

And have got a basic gravity-changing setup working with the edges.

(When on the lowest platform, jump into the wall on the left side and

the gravity will change

http://ifile.it/m6padby

Again, thank you so so so much!! It has helped tremendously :D!

Hi everyone, I was hoping someone might have experience with rotating

characters or objects with platforming behavior,

and whether anyone has come across or has solution for when your object

rotates near a 'solid' and ends up being thrown through it, I can

only assume? because the rotation of it puts the majority of the image

to far into that solid and it pops out the other side?

Is there any way to keep the object from getting pushed through a solid

like this?

It's absolutely killing me and I can't find a solution,

any help or ideas or sharing of experiences with these problems

would be extremely appreciated!

Well if physics didn't like un-centered hotspots, that would be the most

likely issue.

Guess I have to just give up on custom collision as a solution to my

problems.

The reason I need to change the hotspot is because of the big issue,

of when the character rotates near corners, he ends up getting thrown

through the wall because of the location where the object rotates

(you can't set a specific rotation angle when having him rotate from

an offset position/point).

Which is a really frustrating occurrence.

I was thinking of the collision box, but it would be a nightmareish

amount of recoding to get everything changed over to that box,

just for the slight possibility it might stop the shooting through

walls occurring.

It also seems like, when I set the character to a specific angle,

and it get's thrown through the side of the wall, it seems like

it doesn't actually skip angles.

The only logical reason it would end up getting thrown through the wall,

is that it's rotated instantly to the new angle, and when the character

is rotated halfway through the wall it pops out the other side.

Well like I said, it works absolutely perfectly until you change the hotspot position.

So is there any way to be able to get custom collisions with platform

behavior without physics?

Well I finally isolated the issue —@;

So I made a simplified demo file to show what's happening.

http://ifile.it/lkb3in9

Incase you don't have it, this project requires the following plugin -

advanced camera plugin

(It was the only way I could get it to follow the object, the 'center view on me' wasn't working?)

It seems as though when gravity is added, it works perfectly fine and

you can have the custom collisions.

(note: This is in the case of when you've also got platform behavior)

However, as soon move the hotspot, even though the gravity is set to off, it kicks in and also ignores the collision and flies through

the objects.

In the example I've currently left the hotspot in the middle so you

can see how works perfectly fine until you change the hotspots position.