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  • An occasional reset event, maybe between every couple of stable releases wouldn't be a bad thing. It would have a similar effect to what this thread did actually

    Let's hope so.

    I still would like to know if we are allowed to repost old ideas after reset? Or will they be automatically declined as duplicates?

  • Anyway, thanks for hearing us out and giving attention to the issue.

    I'm not sure we were heard.. I understand that Ashley is a very busy man and he simply doesn't have time to go though all our suggestions. But I don't think limiting the number of ideas and votes is a solution. It's a shame that we are in this situation where he's the only person in Scirra who can do it.

    I wish they treated the suggestions platform as a valuable resource with users feedback, that can help their software to grow. Currently it feels like it's nothing but a nuisance to them.

  • You will make it even harder for us to vote, yay.

    But any change is better than nothing, I guess.

    Should we start reposting old ideas which we care about on the new platform? Or will it be for new ideas only?

    And also - will you work on any of the existing ideas during these 6 months?

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  • Also I wish there was some way we could encourage people to vote on small and quick ideas first, since it would be much easier to get those done and more rewarding for people to see their votes turn in to action.

    Yes!!! It's exactly what I have been trying to tell in all my previous comments! As someone who works 8+ hours in C3 every day, I'm all for small improvements that will make my life easier. People will see more ideas implemented, everyone will be happy! I'll reiterate:

    • Keep the "Minor suggestions" category, or create a similar one.
    • Give people more votes so that they have spare votes for minor suggestions, not just for "big and flashy" ideas. (Or, if the platform allows this, allocate certain number of votes for each category)
    • Periodically review N top suggestions from this category, pick among them the ones you definitely know are easy and implement them. If any suggestion appears to be not so minor, you can always move it to another category and let people decide with votes if they want it or not.

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  • I think we're going in circles again... reviewing a whole set of ideas is a lot of admin work

    I meant really quickly browse through the titles and mark suggestions which already exist, this should take like 5 minutes. But ok, forget about the initial review.

    I'm not sure a limited voting period is that useful either - I suspect lots of users come and go, and having just say one or two weeks to accept votes means a lot of passer-by type users won't be counted.

    With limited amount of votes people will run out of votes long before the end of the period! Ideas posted in the first week will receive tons of votes, ideas posted in the last week will receive none. A limited voting period will ensure that all ideas receive equal attention.

    And what do you think about picking N top ideas from each category??

  • Ashley

    If everything is a priority, nothing is a priority.

    And I keep telling you that with the unlimited number of votes you will still be able to see priority ideas. The ones that receive more votes are priority, it's that simple! It shouldn't matter to you if the top post has 20 votes or 20000 votes, if it's on top. But it matters to us! And it gives smaller ideas a chance to get some votes.

    Users don't know what will be quick to do.

    I am not talking about the ease of implementation. I mean that "minor suggestions" category should be for small things that make our experience with C3 easier. Like a small improvement to the animation editor, a new keyboard shortcut, a new expression. Then it's up to you to decide if this suggestion will be easy to implement. If it requires more than several hours of work - just decline it.

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    What do you think about this system? - for 1-2 months people can post ideas but voting is disabled. After 2 months you quickly review the ideas (maybe just the titles) to discard those that already exist or not possible. Then you open voting for one week.

    Then you review most upvoted ideas from each category. A few from Editor, a few from Runtime, a few from Scripting, a few from Minor Suggestions etc. This way the voting will be more fair, and we'll get a diversity of ideas.

  • If people can have unlimited votes, then one person can vote on an impossible amount of work for us, and they are guaranteed to be disappointed.

    Ashley Why? I really don't understand! It will make your job easier, not harder!

    Some ideas will receive 1000 votes, others 50 votes. It will clearly show which idea people care about more. This system works well on Reddit and thousands of other platforms, so what's wrong with using it here?

    With 10 votes limit you are forcing us to make impossible decisions. How do you choose between a hammer and a screwdriver? Which is more important to you - a dog or a lawnmower?

    Also, let's imagine it's the last month of the 6-month period. Someone posts a really good suggestion and it currently sits at 1 vote. With limited votes almost nobody will vote on it, because (A) by this time they have no votes left, and (B) even if they have a spare vote, they see no point upvoting that idea because the top leading ideas are pretty much already decided, and their vote will go to waste.

    I think it would be best to remove the "minor suggestions" category, so we stop pretending we know what is and isn't easy, because in truth we don't know.

    I believe "Minor suggestions" category was misunderstood from the start. It's not about ideas which are easy for you to implement (we can't possibly know that), it should be for ideas which are minor for us. Like adding a new keyboard shortcut, or a small change in some behavior.

    Obviously, this category can't compete with other ideas from "big" categories. And that's why judging ideas only by votes count is wrong, the right thing to do would be picking top N ideas from each category.

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    I almost regret starting this thread. If as a result of it you cut the votes limit from 25 to 10 and remove "minor suggestions", this will be a huge step back to what we had 3-4 years ago.

  • Jase00 About a year ago I also proposed conducting monthly polls of best ideas (most upvoted and picked by Scirra), but here on the forum, not in social media. Ashley was against it.

    I really don't see how deleting all suggestions every 6 months will be any better than the current situation. Surely Ashley can't commit that N most upvoted ideas at the end of 6 months period will be implemented, there are too many unknowns.

  • That's why I think every three months would be better.

    Why half measures? Lets automatically delete each idea immediately after posting. No ideas - no problem! And no votes will be needed. Everybody happy.

  • So: how does it sound to have a complete reset of the suggestions platform every 6 months, and everyone gets 10 votes?

    Ashley I don't think this will solve anything. People will simply start reposting their suggestions every 6 months. And 10 votes is absolutely not enough. It will make things even worse than now - people will spend all votes on own ideas. And if there are any votes left, they will likely be spent on big and "flashy" ideas like new 3D features, while most minor suggestions (like adding round cap to drawing canvas) will not get any votes at all.

    Why are you so against unlimited votes? Just add a restriction - one vote per idea. When people will be able to freely upvote and downvote each idea, this will give you a clear picture of what people want.

    There are so many small things that can be improved in Construct! And I want a platform that will give these small ideas equal exposure and chances to be noticed and implemented. Unfortunately, with 10 votes limit this will never going to happen.

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