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  • Trevor10 - I understand how complex 3d can be, which is exactly why I want construct to have it so it would be simplified enough to a point I can actually use. Having 3d in construct doesn't mean people suddenly have to start flinging calculus around - far from it.

    Besides, I'm not asking for the euphoria character physics engine or anything, basic 3d like CC has isn't actually very hard to work with at all. It has an extra axis of rotation but that's pretty much it. Everything I tried to do with it hasn't even involved any math past very basic algebra, the same level I generally use working in 2d, and even at that level, while I was still very new to construct I managed the beginnings of a very basic starfox clone no problem and added some nifty effects to some prototypes - like what I mentioned before, a planet rotating or large spaceships in a shmup are good simple examples, very effective in 3d while being unrealistic with sprites.

    Why not have it there for those who want it and are capable? There's really no downside. Even if c2 adds 3d, it's not like you would have to use it if you didn't want to.

    Joannesalfa - whoa - awesome link there. I wonder if one of those 3d js libraries would be easier to implement than three.js.

  • Can you post a capx? I'm getting 60fps on both my iPhone 4S and ipad 3.

    It appears you still have a lot of overdraw going on - completely transparent pixels around the planets and such still take gpu time to draw. Also, is your border a full screen image as well? That would be 2x the pixels again. There appears to be tons of objects offscreen right that are unnessecary.

    Can you post a .capx? That would make it easier to see what you're doing.

    Also, of note there was a significant jump from the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 4S, which CPU is 2x faster and gpu is 7x faster.

  • In my opinion it does make sense for a few reasons:

    Most people can draw a sprite, but how many can do 3D modelling?

    A recent press release from unity claims to have 17 of apple's top iOS games of the year developed in unity and 1.5 million registered developers, and while some of those developers are using it for 2d, I've heard it's not all that well suited for it, so it seems like most of those users are using for 3d - and that's just unity, so I'd say a lot! There are also many options for getting content bundled with programs and from digital shops as well.

    The maths gets a lot harder too, with things like quaternions instead of a simple angle.

    Couldn't that be simplified by allowing the user to choose between using quaternions, 3 axes, or simply aim towards a object/point in 3d space? Like an action: object: point at object 2, or object: point at object2.x, object2.y, object2.z, or set roll to x, etc.

    IMO combining this complexity with a "simple" event system doesn't make sense, because it's still complicated.

    I think it makes sense - if a person wants to develop something that requires complex portions, they would still appreciate having the other parts that don't have to be complex be simpler. I was able to do a surprising amount just with the functionality cc had. A lot of game logic doesn't even have anything to do with the number of dimensions, and the event system would help with that tremendously.

    The fact that playmaker and kismet exist for unity and UDK shows there's a demand for a way to make 3d game development simpler with a nice visual interface. I think c2's event editor is vastly superior to either of those and would work brilliantly for 3d as well as 2d. Besides, some of us WANT to make complex stuff. It would certainly be better if power users didn't have to leave if they wanted to do such things.

    Popup 3D like Classic had in a very limited way is possible, but I'm not sure how useful it really is, plus it would depend on WebGL support in C2 which is not really ubiquitously supported yet.

    I'm not quite sure what you mean by pop-up 3D, but regardless of you're talking about the 3d object, sprite distortion or simple z depth with sprites I could definitely make use of all of those even if they are webGL only. After all, we can detect if webgl is not enabled and replace the effect with something else if that's the case, and if we're targeting desktop exe it's not an issue.

    3D would also open up construct to a whole new segment of users, increasing your user base and target audience, meaning more sales and c2 dominating the industry, crushing all others beneath its - I mean, uh, more sales. Yeah.

  • As I mentioned in the other thread, no worries. Thanks for acknowledging it.

    Now back to SUPER HAPPY FUN TIMES AT SCIRRA!

  • Whiteclaws - No worries, no serious harm done. Just something to keep in mind. Thanks for acknowledging it.

  • You should back up your project before doing so, though, and probably only do so for testing purposes.

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  • Yup , And Stop asking those question , Ashley said it , and re-said it , The list is private and too big to accept any more suggestion ... Chances that yours are in the list too ....

    Live with it ... Or make a plugin and perhaps help the community :D !

    Whiteclaws - you're talking to one person like they're all the people on the forum, which they're not. We're getting lots of new users here who haven't been reading every thread on the forum, and so don't know the question or suggestion has been asked/made before. I asked you before to please refrain from using an exasperated tone in this manner, and I ask you again please refrain from doing it further, as it bothers the other forum members. We want to maintain the friendly atmosphere!

  • Not able to check the capx at the moment, but previewing is slower than export because the preview code has a lot of checks for errors.

    The authentication errors are a forum bug, go to another page, come back and retry and it generally works after a try or two.

  • I totally want construct to have 3D as well. It would be great if it at some point something like three.js could be incorporated.

    Ashley, I know you've said you want to keep it 2D, but I hope eventually once you get through most of that to-do list you'll consider it. Even basic 3D like cc had, or maybe a little better with some basic lighting could be used to great effect for things that aren't realistic with sprites, like large spaceships or planets rotating in the background.

  • Your fps problem is probably because of overdraw. You have a ton of it going on in the test. Overdraw is when a pixel is drawn more than once - for example how the black squares are on top of the background. Due to how graphics cards work, first it draws the background, then it draws the black square on top of it, therefore drawing those pixels twice - and in your tests, then the one on top of that, and the one on top of that, which results in most of the screen being redrawn quite a few times.

    Mobile hardware is far weaker than desktop, especially when it comes to pixel fill rates (the number of pixels a graphics card can draw in a 60th of a second). I read somewhere that on average devices can currently only draw 3x the number of pixels on the screen in that amount of time. If you take that into consideration, I'm quite confident you can increase the framerate dramatically - it did wonders for the game I'm working on.

    For reference, I get 23 fps on an ipad 3 in landscape mode, and it goes up to 33 in portrait - because it's drawing less pixels. An iPhone 4S goes from 41 to 60.

    Also, what device and os version are you using? iOS 4 had utterly terrible HTML 5 performance. iOS 5 increased HTML 5 performance by something like 2000% and then ios6 improved it about another third.

  • I agree completely - I would really prefer 'add blank event' instead. If someone wants it to be a blank sub event, then they can simply drag it, but if you use it on an event with sub events it not only puts it at the end of the list so you have to hunt for it as mentioned, but if the sub events are collapsed it doesn't even show, So you have to uncollapse them, scroll trying to find where it appeared, then often it's too far to drag it, so then use cut, scroll back to where you wanted and then paste. I use tons of sub events meaning that it often ends up taking more work to find the thing than it does to create a new event and delete the condition.

    In it's current form I hardly ever use it, as add blank event I would use it quite often.

  • I've had this problem too. For some reason when in fullscreen in lanscape on ios safari the canvas gets set to larger than the screen (windowheight returns 760 when the screen is 640 tall). I worked around it by checking the screen size then setting it manually via the set canvas size action, but it would be nice if it got fixed. I've been meaning to make a bug report for it, now's as good a time as any.

    Adding an Ashley so this thread doesn't get missed.

  • There are multiplatform frameworks like haxe and qt which allow export to PC, Mac and Linux without needing to run via chrome. While having c2 run on those extra platforms would be great, Ashley has stated that it's something they simply don't have the resources to do at the moment.

    They've also said that export to Linux should hopefully be coming in the next beta.

  • It's not that C2 is primarily geared towards making simple browser-based games, it's just that no one has made something more complex with it yet. I feel confident that C2 is capable of making complex games.

    Having sprite distortion would be really nice though.

    Exe and osx app support using node WebKit was added in the newest beta, check it out. The official plug-in doesn't yet support all of the options node WebKit has, like writing files to disk, but JohnnySheffield made some plugins for the rest of them and and a tutorial for exporting (you can get more window options and such as well as export to Linux if you do it manually):

    Export to node WebKit tutorial

    Node webkit plugin

    Node webkit filesystem plugin

    Node webkit path plugin

    Node webkit os plugin

    Node webkit wiki

    Be sure to follow the tutorial if you want to export manually, there's an edit to the index.html file that needs to be done to speed up loading.

  • It's a forum bug, don't worry about it.

    I don't blame you though, I once thought someone was hijacking else's account. :P