I find that objects are hard to place when u can't adjust their position either front or back. There isn't an object layer under a layout. The option I can find is Send to TOP of layer or BOTTOM. If I could arrange through a Z order object Layout under a Layer (like the object window) it would be awesome! This way I don't need to keep sending objects tot eh TOP and BOTTOM. You may say why not just make lots of layer for all the objects, but it doesn't work that way! Any help? <img src="smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> THX!! <img src="smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0" align="middle" />