inkBot, I didn't investigate kismet all that much yet, but yeah it seems that way.

I'm now looking into both. Such good stuff.

member showcase (playmaker)

This is a great resource for looking into the potential for gamemaker. Particularly, look at Xenoid Maze.

I'm thinking this is an excellent 3d codeless tool. But I am having trouble deciphering how future-proof/sustainable it is, and how practical it is to rely on for a moderately large project, particularly cross platform. It is interesting to point out that this is also created by a 2 person team.

Anyways I'd love to learn more.

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Edit: check this out: info

What I thought was most facinating about the above is that it talks about a user creating applications with it (not games). That is important to me, too. But lots more than that, read it.

Still, I'm skeptical because of its release timeline. I guess I'm spoiled by C2, but with game dev tools I've come to judge them against C2s interactive productive pace. It is really a paradigm of software development in my mind.

I'm afraid I can't answer your question, but this resource should be able to provide you with the responses you're looking for without much difficulty: PlayMaker Community.

If you feel you get a decent grip on the answer to your own question, feel free to reply back here, as I'd be curious myself.

alspal...yeah...but think of how expensive C2 would become. We would probably all have to buy new exporters (might have to anyways), and maybe even buy new releases (like 4.0 for unity).

Nah, my guess is they're better off doing their own things.

The amount of work you put into it, unfortunately, shouldn't dictate how much you sell it for. Rather, how much you work should result in how good the product is, and depending on the market/how many markets you sell it in, how good it is should result in how many sales you get (plus marketing/etc).

It's really difficult to judge the price you should place the game at. And ultimately, I think that the reviews you receive in an early version should give you a better idea of how much people will be willing to spend.

But for a more concrete answer, I'd say sell it no more than 4.99. If it does well, make an expansion (or sequel), and make more money. These are just my feelings; and to be clear, I feel like 4.99 is a max, not necessarily a recommended retail value.

But finally, that is a generic answer. If you have it on one market where games can sell well for $10, go for it. But if you have it available cross-platform, with a potential audience in the hundreds of millions, I say go with a lower price.

LASTLY, there are books and online resources that have done research regarding game sales and pricing. Might be better off looking there.

Or just wing it and hope for the best.

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p.s. 3.99 is a little less common. could be a winner. idk.

Anyways the game looks great, and the scirra arcade version is a nice intro. Congratulations on your sponsorship!

Thanks for the clarification, Kiyoshi! Hopefully the playmaker developers continue to work on the product and have it put out cleaner, more refined code.

Playmaker is better than Construct 2? ;p

Nope, just thought that the codeless members of the C2 community might like to know about a codeless option for 3D game development that happens to be on sale. I know I think it sounds inviting.

But as far as I can tell it is very different from C2, plus the free version of Unity 3D doesn't include several critical features for deployment: (features comparison). --- see "build size stripping" under deployment...and of course many other things.

So really they are very different and used for very different things. But PlayMaker is a really cool option for someone using Unity 3D...and it's on sale :)

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Thanks shinkan!

PlayMaker Sale

Hey guys, thanks to shinkan, I've discovered the PlayMaker plugin for Unity 3D (which is free to download).

And the plugin, usually $95, is currently available for $45! If you are a student, or have been in the military, you might even be able to get a lower price!

So I thought I'd let everyone know about this limited time offer.

GameMaker Homepage

Oh and here is the PlayMaker Homepage, if you would like to learn more about it. It is a codeless plugin for Unity 3D.

I hope this helps somebody save some money!

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Update: So I practiced what I preach, and I purchased Playmaker after much review and consideration. If you have any questions regarding it, I'm in a much better position to respond at this point, though know that I haven't even begun playing with the editor itself yet, so I'm far from perfect in my knowledge of it. Purchase and installation was extremely easy, and now playmaker is directly integrated into unity.

Wow this is all really fantastic information, thanks guys!

And GameMaker is on sale for $45 right now!

gamemaker sale

Kiyoshi, just curious, could you elaborate a bit more on why it cannot be used for your entire game?

And rtcarroll07, UDK with Kismet also looks really nice! Thanks for the information!

TELLES0808, yeah I know that 3D is a greater challenge, but I've already built some moderately complex 3d animations, and I would just like to experiment with potential uses for these programs. I am particularly interested in building 3D web applications.

Hello!

I know that 3D development tools are almost always likely to be inherently more complex than 2D development tools, but I'm wondering if anyone here could suggest some programs that share an ease of use and power that is comparable to C2 [or simply relatively easy and powerful]? I just want something that I can use to create relatively simply 3d content for games and apps, and I'm looking for more ideas.

What do you guys use/recommend?

I already use after effects, flash, unity, blender, and sketchup.

Thank you!

That's really awesome thanks so much for your help Kyatric!